AMD Ryzen Strix Halo APU is matching the RTX 4070 laptop GPU in gaming benchmarks

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The big picture: AMD has lifted the embargo on Ryzen AI Max 300 reviews, allowing tech blogs and YouTube channels to share performance details. While all Strix Halo APUs pack powerful CPU and GPU cores, reviews of the flagship Max+ 395 suggest its integrated GPU comes surprisingly close to the RTX 4070 laptop GPU in some games.

Hardware Canucks' review found that the Radeon 8060S iGPU in the AI Max+ 395 outperformed a laptop running an RTX 4070 at 70W – nearly the same power draw as the entire AI Max+ 395. Despite its lower power consumption, the 8060S delivered higher frame rates than the RTX 4070 in popular titles like Cyberpunk 2077 and Doom Eternal.

Even the AI Max 390 put up stunning numbers, with its Radeon 8950S iGPU matching – and sometimes outperforming – the RTX 4060 in some games, even at a native 1600p resolution. The reviewer pitted the Strix Halo chips against the Nvidia discrete GPUs in several other games, such as Rainbow 6: Siege, Red Dead Redemption, and The Callisto Protocol, with each yielding similar results with minor discrepancies.

For example, in Cyberpunk 2077, the AI Max+ 395 with the Radeon 8060S averaged 39 fps, while the AI Max 390 with the Radeon 8050S hit 35 fps.

By comparison, the RTX 4070 paired with the Ryzen 9 8945HS reached 37 fps, while the RTX 4060 paired with the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 managed 36 fps.

Benchmarks published by NotebookCheck show similar results, with some exceptions. For example, in 3DMark 11, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 laptop GPU in a Razer Blade PC scored 44,315 points, while the Radeon RX 8060S in the ROG Flow Z13 managed 40,732 points. In some games, like GTA V, the Nvidia GPUs proved too strong for the AMD chip, achieving up to 37 percent higher frame rates at 1080p with the highest settings.

The publication also tested the 8060S against Arm chips from Apple and Qualcomm, with the AMD chip proving significantly faster than the Qualcomm SoC. However, the situation changed with the Apple M4, as the 8060S mostly scored between the two M4 Pro GPUs, depending on the specific benchmark.

All reviews of the AI Max+ 395 focus on the ASUS ROG Flow Z13 convertible, one of at least three devices set to ship with Strix Halo APUs. Asus has yet to announce pricing, but online rumors suggest the starting price could be around $2,000.

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AMD Ryzen Strix Halo APU is matching the RTX 4070 laptop GPU in gaming benchmarks

 
Good article but… clickbait title… the title implies that the AMD matches the 4070…the article does NOT claim that the AMD matches the 4070 - only that it matches it in SOME games…
 
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For me, if AMD could make one of these for cheaper and put it in a little box you place under your TV then we could have a console like budget gaming PC. You could put in a lower core count CPU to get costs down and it could probably get by with 16GB of RAM too.

But in its current iteration of very expensive ASUS laptop, it doesn't make much sense.
 
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manowar51 said:
For me, if AMD could make one of these for cheaper and put it in a little box you place under your TV then we could have a console like budget gaming PC. You could put in a lower core count CPU to get costs down and it could probably get by with 16GB of RAM too.

But in its current iteration of very expensive ASUS laptop, it doesn't make much sense.
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You can build a 8600g or 8700g mITX build if you want that right now. You control the case size, how much memory and storage and can expand in the future.
 
GeforcerFX said:
You can build a 8600g or 8700g mITX build if you want that right now. You control the case size, how much memory and storage and can expand in the future.
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An 8700G's GPU is slower than a desktop GTX 1650 according to reviews. So it would be cheaper to buy an i3 + 1650 if you're looking to game.

But the performance is far too low to worth putting it under a TV for me. Its good 1080p stuff for someone who wants to get into PC gaming maybe.
 
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We've known that this was AMD basic capabilities ever since the Xbone and the PS4 first launched but it's the first time AMD is letting a non-console manufacturer use a full on APU and not just a tiny fraction optimized for laptops at best.

I think it's probably too much draw for anything smaller than this laptop/tablet small form factor but soon enough if you're willing to pay a price premium, we'll see OEM manufacturers put these on mini pcs to basically have a PC console version, which would be pretty sweet if it can be on SteamOS (Or something similar) instead so it's an actual console-like experience of being able to use it on a TV (Whereas with Windows 11 this is a pain to set up with lots of custom software to allow you to use a controller for stuff like the lock screen and such)
 
manowar51 said:
An 8700G's GPU is slower than a desktop GTX 1650 according to reviews. So it would be cheaper to buy an i3 + 1650 if you're looking to game.

But the performance is far too low to worth putting it under a TV for me. Its good 1080p stuff for someone who wants to get into PC gaming maybe.
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This is one case where just because you *can* do a DIY PC doesn't means you should: it's very easy to get a NUC-like mini-PC using much stronger graphics from the 780m and up (Soon enough perhaps even to this chip) So if you want stationary Steam Deck-like experience you should get one of those or eventually something like this tablet but without the screen and not bother with an itx system unless you basically want to include a high end gpu on a tiny system and actually enjoy the challenges of craming too much power and heat into too small of a case.
 
Liranan said:
Excellent performance, hope they make a U version as there's basically nothing for me to upgrade to from my 5650U and 32GB RAM.
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Strix Halo die size and performance capability would be completely wasted in a ~20W U configuration. Even the 780M and 890M are wasted at only 20W and those CPUs will cost a lot less to include in a U-class and priced laptop.
 
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If AMD’s Strix Halo APUs are delivering near-4070 performance at a fraction of the power draw, we could be looking at a major shift in laptop design. Thinner, lighter, and cooler gaming machines without sacrificing performance? That’s exciting for both gamers and creative professionals.
 
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airbornex said:
If AMD’s Strix Halo APUs are delivering near-4070 performance at a fraction of the power draw, we could be looking at a major shift in laptop design. Thinner, lighter, and cooler gaming machines without sacrificing performance? That’s exciting for both gamers and creative professionals.
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The one possible problem I have already witnessed with AMDs top of the line integrated graphics is... They put them in flagman laptops with dedicated gpus!
Like if premium laptops with dedicated graphics really need these powerful integrated chips.
"Hmmm, today I do not wanna game on my 4080m, today I will utilize my CPUs integrated graphics to play Delta Force on medium settings..."
Using just the simplest logic, the most efficient iGPU should go along a powerful laptop dedicated GPU to ensure longest time when laptop is not used for gaming or processing GPU heavy tasks.

 
Dimitriid said:
This is one case where just because you *can* do a DIY PC doesn't means you should: it's very easy to get a NUC-like mini-PC using much stronger graphics from the 780m and up (Soon enough perhaps even to this chip) So if you want stationary Steam Deck-like experience you should get one of those or eventually something like this tablet but without the screen and not bother with an itx system unless you basically want to include a high end gpu on a tiny system and actually enjoy the challenges of craming too much power and heat into too small of a case.
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You can buy SFF 1650s though. Hell you can buy SFF 4060s. So you might make your system a tiny bit smaller with this 8700G APU but not really. And the performance will be a significantly slower. Its not a big deal to put say a 3050 with an i3 in a tiny case, these components dont get that hot. And if they did you can undervolt. Youd get better results for sure.

I dont think there is much of a case for a gaming machine using an AMD 8700G APU. Maybe at the lower end. But unless you need to make your device that ever so tiny bit smaller, a half height GPU and an i3 is going to give you a vastly better experience. And you can get away with much cheaper RAM. Not to mention you get better connectivity off the back of a GPU than you do off a SFF mobo.

But maybe they will release this more powerful APU on AM5 and let users do what they want with it. Id love to see it but I dont see it happening.
 
Lew Zealand said:
Strix Halo die size and performance capability would be completely wasted in a ~20W U configuration. Even the 780M and 890M are wasted at only 20W and those CPUs will cost a lot less to include in a U-class and priced laptop.
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That may be true but considering my desktop (7600X, 64GB RAM, 6800) I don't need a desktop replacement.
 
Puiu said:
It is matching as stated in the title and as seen in the benchmarks. It doesn't need to do that in all games, just enough.
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No - if you were just reading the title, you’d assume that the AMD is just as good as the 4070… which it isn’t!!
It’s close - and that’s what the title should say!
 
Puiu said:
It is matching as stated in the title and as seen in the benchmarks. It doesn't need to do that in all games, just enough.
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Matching and equaling are at play here. The article title is misleading, again. this site is going downhill fast.

matching can mean ''within very close margin'' .. equal would have meant direct match .. I think the issue is the the expectation that 'match' means 'exact match'... which is a american thing
 
maxxcool7421 said:
Matching and equaling are at play here. The article title is misleading, again. this site is going downhill fast.

matching can mean ''within very close margin'' .. equal would have meant direct match .. I think the issue is the the expectation that 'match' means 'exact match'... which is a american thing
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The only thing going "downhill" are the comments here.

An iGPU is matching the 4070 in many of the games testing and even beating it in some. This is something to be praised.

If you want to talk about semantics about how "it's not all games", as if this changes what the iGPU managed to achieve, then that's your problem. The title of the article is stating a fact that happened. Especially in the context of the form factor and that this APU can go as high as 140W, where the CPU and GPU aren't both starved of power.

In the 30 or so years I've been reading tech articles, "matching" has never been used in a context where the delta is 0%, it's always in results that are close enough.
 
Liranan said:
That may be true but considering my desktop (7600X, 64GB RAM, 6800) I don't need a desktop replacement.
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Then buy a 780m or 890m machine if you want to go smaller but still affordable. Strix Halo is big and expensive and wasted in a ultra low power form factor. Even more wasted than the 780m or 890m already is at 20W.
 
So, AMD might finally have a decent APU that could really be nice for lower end gaming machines, but they are marketing it as an expensive AI Workstation which likely will not get a DIY socket, but will come only in laptops and mini-PCs?
 
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